Wow... how should I start blasting your idea... let's see... 1) As I have said several times before, screw it if games are "kiddie;" Super Mario Sunshine is a GREAT game... it's addictive, fun, and unique... Yeah, it's kiddie... who the hell cares?! If it's a great game, it's a great game. 2) Violence is over-rated... "Wow!!! This game is rated M. It must be gory, violent, graphic, and unappropriate in every way! Hmmmm... I'll buy it. *1/2 hour later* DUDE!!! I just smashed a hooker's head in with a baseball bat, and then I ran over a homeless man over and over and over... THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER!!!" -An Idiot 3) People seem to refuse to play, or even consider playing games that have no gruesome deaths in them... "What? [I]Super Mario[/I] (fill in the rest)?! It's an original idea and has a fun factor of 9.5... but there are no whores, guts, explosive weapons, or major felonies... screw it. I want to have nothing to do with a game that can be played by all members of the family. I think I'll go play [I]Hooker Killer from Hell XVII: The Gun that Shoots Tanks[/I] instead, just like everbody else!" -An Idiot This is one of the several reasons why I hate people... Here's what you do, take your head out of your ass (slowly now, it's been there for a while), try a game that has some character, and stop being some macho-man gamer.